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  • Humans and human ancestors have also been consuming large quantities of plants for far earlier than that. Here's another paper looking 780,000 years ago finding a wide amount of plants consumed

    we demonstrate that a wide variety of plants were processed by Middle Pleistocene hominins at the site of Gesher Benot Ya’aqov in Israel (33° 00’ 30” N, 35° 37’ 30” E), at least 780,000 y ago. These results further indicate the advanced cognitive abilities of our early ancestors, including their ability to collect plants from varying distances and from a wide range of habitats and to mechanically process them using percussive tools.

    https://www.pnas.org/doi/10.1073/pnas.2418661121

    I am not saying that hunting didn't happen (it definitely did). I am just saying that more recent research is painting a very different picture of the level of consumption of it

  • More modern research does not suggest this made up most of the consumption for humans even before agriculture. For instance,

    Our results unequivocally demonstrate a substantial plant-based component in the diets of these hunter-gatherers. This distinct dietary pattern challenges the prevailing notion of high reliance on animal proteins among pre-agricultural human groups

    https://www.nature.com/articles/s41559-024-02382-z

  • Does the Lemmy post title not have "in mice" in it for you? I added it to the title of the post to clarify this. It should show as

    Red meat wreaks havoc on gut and drives inflammatory bowel disease (IBD) in study on mice

    Whereas the original title of the article was:

    Red meat wreaks havoc on gut and drives inflammatory bowel disease

  • My point is that it was way more rare than what people's diets look like today. Not zero but not dominant. Wide reliance on plants is even true before modern agriculture. For example:

    Here we present the isotopic evidence of pronounced plant reliance among Late Stone Age hunter-gatherers from North Africa (15,000–13,000 cal BP), predating the advent of agriculture by several millennia

    https://www.nature.com/articles/s41559-024-02382-z

  • Humans historically, also didn't eat much meat up until very recently. More recent research suggests our ancient human ancestors were eating far more plants than meat

    EDIT: For example:

    Here we present the isotopic evidence of pronounced plant reliance among Late Stone Age hunter-gatherers from North Africa (15,000–13,000 cal BP), predating the advent of agriculture by several millennia

    https://www.nature.com/articles/s41559-024-02382-z

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    Livestock played a role in prehistoric plague infections
    www.eurekalert.org Livestock played a role in prehistoric plague infections

    To try to solve the puzzle of how the infection persisted and spread over thousands of years in Eurasia, an international team of researchers from the Max Planck Institute of Infection Biology, Harvard University, the University of Arkansas, the Max Planck Institute of Evolutionary Anthropology, and...

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  • Maybe worth reminding her of that option too. A lot of people do things for culture because they feel like they are required or supposed to, even if they might feel better not taking part in certain practices

  • If I were to hazard a guess, I'm going to imagine that this won't completely solve the feeling bad/guilty about it aspects. Another option to consider: can always just have something else

    It's very much human to have those feelings and healthy in the short term to have those feelings, but we should generally try to listen to them or they eat away us. Or in the really cheesy way of putting it "listen to your heart"

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